Meckler volunteer vicious attack on Publius Huldah

By Rasputin

Those who have read the section “why we are here” will remember the reason this site was begun was because of Meckler’s and his cohorts and volunteers vicious attacks on those who don’t agree with their “project.” The most vicious attack to date was against constitutional scholar Publius Huldah.

Meckler’s group loathes her because she dares to speak about the opposite side and how a Convention of States, Article V, could pan out and could pose a danger.

Please remember we stated this site is neither pro or con Article V.

But an even more vicious attack has come against Publius Huldah in the last few days, this time from a person by the name of Norman Bobo.

Publius is scheduled to speak near Nashville and a Meckler Alinskyite has this to say on the Wilson County Tea Party Facebook page:

Norman Bobo Hocking Hills TP

That’s only the beginning of his rant, and he doesn’t go over the line in this instance.

However, Mr. Bobo on another site made absolutely cruel and heinous remarks about Publius:

Norman Bobo attack 1

Norman Bobo attack 2

She is a thorn in our backside…and we need to shut her down. We want to inoculate those in the Nashville area about this particular strain of right wing virus. 

All Rasputin can say is “wow.” FYI “SMW” stands for “social media warriors” a way Meckler and his ilk have been trying to shut Publius Huldah down. Just for taking the opposite side.

We hope readers will recognize this type of behavior indicates the lengths Meckler and his crew will go, and respond in kind to him.

I wonder what Mr. Bobo’s employer would think if they saw this?

Norman Bobo linkedin

20 comments
RobJohn1
RobJohn1

I read nothing vicious, hyperbole

LadyImpactOhio1
LadyImpactOhio1

I may be late to this party but flooded basements from tons of rain tend to occupy your time.

Rob you must be using the leftie dictionary for the definition of "hyperbole."

Mr. Bobo most certainly made vicious attacks against Publius Huldah in an attempt to shut her down. But from what I know of this lady and her principles she isn't going away.

LadyImpactOhio1
LadyImpactOhio1

I didn't say you were a leftie. I said if you think Bobo's comments are mere hyperbole, that would be out of the leftist handbook. Meckler and Farris consider themselves "conservatives" but that hasn't stopped them from using leftist Alinsky techniques.

RobJohn1
RobJohn1

@LadyImpactOhio1 why is it anyone who disagrees with haldah is a leftie? Isn't that called shooting the messenger. For Christs sake! You all act like someone with a honest disagreement is commtting sacrilege. Closed-mindedness is not a virtue.

RobJohn1
RobJohn1

I'll just share my experience with Huldah. She assumes anyone who disagrees with her is a operative. She does not respond to questions. She is the one who attacks character. The proof I offer is her responses to my repeated requests on her site to answer straight forward questions regarding her beliefs. For example I asked how can nullification be used to balance the federal budget. Look at her response. I've even offered to debate her in public. Nothing but liberal-style responses, attacking the messenger. I'm sorry, but these are what I have repeatedly experienced with her. Truth seeking and open-minded people do not behave as she does.

BTW I'm not a troll, I'm a candidate for the house of representative. I'm dead serious about our rights and liberty.

brian_ev
brian_ev

@RobJohn1 @LadyImpactOhio1 I did not read all of Mr. Bobo's comments but what I've read, he seems to be attacking Publius' character rather than disputing her arguments.  


This looks more like a lynch mob effort in destroying her rather than make a case against her arguments.

bushmillsvassar
bushmillsvassar

@RobJohn1  I can answer the Nullification question, Rob...it puts the people and the state(s) back in charge and makes Congress deathly afraid. It's called showdown, or brinksmanship. That's why Calhoun/SC's illegal nullification worked anyway One successful nullification and Congress will come tie your shoe-laces. they are by definition, a race of cowards.

And you're dealing with adults here, so be careful of your use of words and your interpretations.. We're not here to praise Huldah, just defend her honor, and bury rude SOB's.

RobJohn1
RobJohn1

I agree that nullification can be used in many cases of perverted laws. Where I disagree with Huldah is its effectiveness in reforming the government itself. It's that simple. If she expects to be treated with respect and honor, then needs to reciprocate the same, and drop her personal attacks and assuming everyone who disagrees is an operative. No one, including myself, is infallible.

bushmillsvassar
bushmillsvassar

@RobJohn1  I can't speak for PH, but think you're wrong about the politics of nullification. Fist, it takes the lawyers out of it, rather than making them celebrities, as CoS seems to try to do. The relationship between the people and the states with Congress is changed unalterably, I've written on this: http://www.vassarbushmills.com/2013/02/11/the-final-word-on-nullification-is-that-there-is-no-final-word/


One of my favorite subjects because it involves the threat of force. Make Congress afraid and they will balance the budget. Period.


If you think PH is too strident get a website like this. But I suggest you do your homework first by reviewing the linked material as to what has gratuitously and mean-spiritedly been done to her, then stand back and ask if you are ]still comparing apples to apples in terms of.

RobJohn1
RobJohn1

Thanks, I'll check the links you provided tonight. As for a site I already have my own, but its not a single issue site. Again thanks for the links.

Rasputin1869
Rasputin1869 moderator

No Rasputin doesn't think you are a troll. We are here for healthy discussion. I have looked at Publius' website and don't see anything derogatory toward you. If you have something please post it here with a link.

спасибо

Peaches57
Peaches57

People like Meckler are exactly why, after 30 years, I got out of politics, sold everything, and moved to the back of beyond. Having held positions in the Republican Party, as well as being a Vice-Chair for 2 terms of a state Libertarian Party, I watched these self-aggrandizing types invade, corrupt, and misdirect the direction of their political party's intent...while preaching against their opposition practicing the very thing that they were doing. Politics and political machinations are a complete waste of time, because the wolves in sheep's clothing, like Meckler, Levin, and Beck are in it solely for personal gain and approbation. They neither know nor care what the unintended consequences of their activities will produce - or, worse, they DO know and they DO care, and they are purposefully driving the political process into oblivion for self-enrichment. Either in ignorance or in hubris, they will destroy this country as completely as their supposed opposition.


If the economic indicators are in alignment, they - just like their feared Illuminati - are positioning themselves to profit over the complete destruction of this country. And they will do it in the same manner - by inciting fear, angst, strife, and infighting, with half-truths as their shield and insults and personal attacks as their sword. The people who will truly suffer are the ones who believe in them, fund them, and think that they are doing it out of a love for mankind, God and country. Their god is mammon, their birthright has been traded for a mess of pottage, and they care no more for their adherents than how their passion translates into their own profit margins. 

MorryMarkovitz
MorryMarkovitz

It should be obvious to all that "Norman Bobo" is itself a pseudonym.   (How many people do YOU know with a name like "Bobo?")

The pseudonym he uses was derived in large measure from his actual name, Abnormal Bozo.

brian_ev
brian_ev

Does Norm understand that the Federalist papers were written under the pseudonym "Publius"?  Most of the authors use pseudonyms.  Her arguments are solid.

What type of amendments does he support.  He should address the issues/amendments instead of the personal attacks.  It will be difficult convincing the nation of the amendments he wants by personally attacking people.

kaltkrieger
kaltkrieger

Was waiting for a single concrete example by Mr. Bobo where Publius Hulda supposedly said something that was wrong followed by a chapter and verse recitation of the evidence that what she said was wrong.  Instead, what he wrote simply proved this site's point:  objective criticism of the purveyors of the Article V convention as the be-all, end-all, and ONLY means of enforcing our Constitution is met by those purveyors with ad hominem attacks and the employment of Alinsky tactics.  He called her a charlatan.  Why?  What evidence did he have to back it up?  He made it sound like no one could claim to be an "expert" on the Constitution unless they did . . . what, exactly?  Blank out.  He referred to her "false ideas."  Which ones?  Did he name even one?  And provide information proving the idea was false? 


As for the use of pseudonyms, everyone has their reasons.  The reasons vary.  I wonder what Franklin's were? Jay's? Madison's? Hamilton's?  And others of the Founders and Framers?  The name attached to ideas is not what is important, it is the ideas themselves. 


The key question all should ask is who is asking for money?  Publius Hulda? Or Messrs. Meckler and Farris?


Always begin by following the money. 


Thank you.

PaulAdcock
PaulAdcock

Publius Huldah has had her fair share of being immature and rude.  Don't pick on poor Norman (who, based on what you've shown, wasn't really rude.)  


When I pointed out a fallacy in one of her arguments, namely that her comments on Federalist 49 and that Madison was arguing against an Article V convention were misguided and that the paper in question was about 2 of the three branches being able to make a motion to amend in the power of the third (perhaps through a convention, I cannot recall what Federalist 49 said exactly) and that the Article V convention had nothing to do with that paper (indeed, Article V goes around all three federal branches, so Huldah is way off here), she got really angry and said I was wrong and that when I decided to be a manly-man, that I would go and apologize to her.


Also, another time, she and some other made some cracks about my Twitter handle.  

JohnnyDollar74
JohnnyDollar74

Paul Adcock, Federalist 49 most definitely pertains to a convention. In fact, conventioneers like Timothy Baldwin and others have used the start of Federalist 49 to claim that Jefferson supported Article V to "correct breaches". (Jefferson wrote that quote in 1783 pertaining to his draft for a new Virginia Constitution, 4 years prior to the Philadelphia Convention and well before Article V was conceived). You are correct that Federalist 49 had to do with the branches keeping the others in check, but was using a convention periodically to do so. Federalist 49 is actually commentary AGAINST such things, including using a convention. You actually should read it again, keeping in mind the arguments that are being made against a convention in it and ask yourself, "do this arguments also apply to Article V?" Of course they do. At least to the convention mode.

Here, for your reading enjoyment: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed49.asp

BTW, it's best to read this one with 48 and 50 also. Just FYI.

JohnnyDollar74
JohnnyDollar74

Also, how can one point out someone else's 'fallacy' when they admit that they aren't themselves sure what the paper the suppoused 'fallacy' commented on pertained to? #justsaying

Rasputin1869
Rasputin1869 moderator

Well Paul. Again you did not read "why we are here." We aren't going to repeat ourselves.

Don't front for Norman, it's beneath even a penguin. If he's a big boy he will comment.

FYI I love penguins. I'm especially attuned to the adelies but detest the jackass variety.

vincentx
vincentx

@PaulAdcock  No one believes you because you have been asked to provide a cite to that previous convo w/ PH, which she denies. Email? a blog? couldn't be twitter. Where?


You keep speaking about it, and we've asked for a location cite, As fer as we're concerned, it's all a spoof. Never happened.

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